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i have been using for several weeks hercules rmx with traktor pro but had some problems in the tsi found in the official hercules suport page . i couldnt controll the effects (couldnt change them , the parameters etc. ) so i thought doing my own tsi which i hope will help all the rmx+traktor pro users...these are some of the changes

1. the filter can be adjusted by holding secondary function button (scratch ) and changing "balance" parameters.
2. you can activate the filter by scratch+ tremble kill or deactivate.whan the filter is activated source button lights
3. effects can be activated by holding scratch+1 or 2 or 3... and can be changed scratch+ 4 or 5 or 6 .4 corresponds to1. 5 to 2  and 6 to 3
4.the previous , next button do a 32 beat jump forward or back
5there are some other changes which you ll learn by using this tsi

hope it helps youcool

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when cue points have been set in the track and you are between two of them by pressing 3 button you can go to the previous , with button 6 to the next one . if you want to delete a cue point press scratch + medium kill ...

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when cue points have been set in the track and you are between two of them by pressing 4 button you can go to the previous , with button 6 to the next one . if you want to delete a cue point press scratch + medium kill ...

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when cue points have been set in the track and you are between two of them by pressing 4 button you can go to the previous , with button 6 to the next one . if you want to delete a cue point press scratch + medium kill ...

that is correct but what im talking about is if your between 1 &2 cue points & say you want to instantly jump to cue 4. can this be done on the controller or do you have to use the hot cues on the computer keypad to jump around. thanks for the info on how to delete the cue, i needed that also.

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it is not  possible with the current midi mapping . i had thought of that too when i did the tsi but it needed to delete some other functions in order to make what you mentioned possible . do you really need the cue point jump function that you described ? if so i can make an other tsi .

 

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no need to make another tsi, i just changed the 1-8 & q-i on the keyboard to run all the hot cues. i was wondering if your map will control 4 decks though? i noticed theres a 4 deck map in another post but i am really getting used to this one & didnt want to have to re-learn anything.

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hey, ive just tried using this map and i cant seem to control the parameters for each effect. all i can seem to do is change the dry/wet function and turn each effect on. am i missing something? would it possible at all to provide a diagram of all the functions within your map?

cheers

d law 

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hi guys, in new with the rmx and thanks to you i finaly understand the modifiers thing, but i have one question... can you set the modifier on toggle not on hold?

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hello korun,

it may depend on the software and on the type of midi command the controller sends
-  i dont think there is a problem to set the modifier on toggle rather than hold with dj console rmx transport buttons in traktor pro,
- but for example in ableton live 8, the midi learning mode is different and i didnt find a way to use a transport button with modifier command in toggle mode (because the rmx transport buttons send 1 control change midi command when pushed down / 1 control change midi command when released, releasing the button changed the command), so the solution for ableton live modifier command was to use hercules dj console rmx midi mapper (here), and replace on rmx the button we wanted to use as toggle into a note on/note off midi command. be careful, as long as you dont restore the former midi command, the midi command sent by this button is changed for all software.

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thanks for the quick reply... im using traktor pro and there are 5 options available but none of the is toggle. im using the scratch button as a modifier but i use it quite often so it would be better if it stayed on as long as i want. the options displaying in traktor for the button are: hold, direct, increase, decrease and reset. 🙂

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hello,

did you try direct as option? 

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max, you inspired me:)....

direct button changed the value just to a single number (eg 1) and it stayed that way. so i duplicated the modifier and i set the direct to 0 when the modifier is already 1. it works like a charm 🙂

one more thing, are the rmx buttons durable or should i be carefull? honestly... 🙂

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hello,

rmx transport buttons are durable.
the controls with the shortest live time are the faders if they are pushed vertically (they have a good life cycle for horizontal use): the solution is to avoid storing anything over the rmx in a shelve or in your car trunk (when you place the laptop over the rmx for 5 minutes, it is ok, but if you store it that way every day, the faders will be worn out not because of their use but because of their storage conditions). as rmx transport bag is not rigid, dont consider the transport bag as sufficient to store anything over the rmx even in its transport bag.

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holding the scratchbutton and trying to change the effects parameters (by using the bass, mids and treble) just dont seem to work. does it work with you guys?

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thanks for the tsi file!!  its great!!!

detox!

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There are a few things that just don't work right with the Traktor software and the RMX.  I'm sponsored by Traktor now and I've been in their Hollywood office with their tech ppl trying to figure it out.  They even sent the my issues to the Traktor German office and finally came back and said it just doesn't work 🙁 .  Anyways today they invited me to a focus group for the new S4 (??); their new controller.  Very interesting.

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@ DJ Chris K

You may want to put a link to your TSI if you want people to use it and give you feedback.

@ Dow Jones

Could you be more explicit about what doesn't work ?

Are you refering to

- some mapping your are trying to do which are not possible ?

- some incompatibility which are preveting some functions to work properly ?

- some hardware problems/Limitations of the Rmx ?

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@ Dow Jones
I haven't found incompatibility problems so far by using Hercules RMX + Traktor Pro so I don't know what you re talking about

@ RMX + Traktor pro users
This is the link of the Tsi file ... If you dont understand some of the functions ask me in this forum
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/36632302/file.html

 

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@ RMX + Traktor pro users
This is the link of the Tsi file ... If you dont understand some of the functions ask me in this forum
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/36632302/file.html

Thanks Chris... I purchased the RMX with Traktor Pro last week. I also imported the tsi file from the Hercules support page but found it a bit disappointing.

I will import your file tomorrow & have a mess around. If you could you list any other changes you made in this tsi file it would be greatly appreciated.

Again thanks for the updated tsi, just a shame Hercules haven't bothered to update their support page for recent RMX users.

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The other functions which you may use are these :

1. BY holding scratch + next previous buttons you can switch both effect units on or off .

2.(I think this function is one of the most needed) by holding scratch + changing bass or mid or treble parameters you can change effects parameters. in each deck the firs effect corresponds to treble , the second to mid and the third to bass ... When scratch button is released the equalizer wont change.

3 .In each deck button 1 decreases loop length button 2 activates it and button 3 increases it

4. Button 4 is  the previous cue loop function button 5 is cue set + store and button 6 is the next cue loop

5. The sync button lights on every beat not in the midle of them.

Forgot to mention that with this tsi you can work with both effect units of each deck

Think with this mapping you can controll pretty much all the functions of Traktor Pro only with Hercules Rmx.
Hope it helps you work better Smile

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Again thanks for the updated tsi, just a shame Hercules haven't bothered to update their support page for recent RMX users.

What do you mean exactly Johno ?

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@ Chris K

If I may make a few suggestions:

- You may want to enable Soft Takeover for your EQ and FX control assignement. This will prevent radical jump when going back to the previous state and moving the physical contols (which would sound terrible if your bass was at minimum and then go straight to max).

- Independant filter controls for each decks might be preferable to one for both. You could use the GAIN knobs for example...

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I firstly used the filters as you suggested but sometimes it was too risky because of the imediate gain increase or decrease The idea about the soft takeover is really good and I m thinking of doing the two midifications which you suggested .Both filter and effects have takeover .gain of each deck is the coresponding filter function... you can change the gain scratch + gain
Thank you Phatso for the suggestions
this is the updated tsi  link ...
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/48887872/file.html

 

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Great, I'll give this a go tomorrow ....

I was also disappointed with the original mapping, so much so I went out and both a  X1 and use that for effects and looping now.

But will be great to also have these on the RMX 

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Again thanks for the updated tsi, just a shame Hercules haven't bothered to update their support page for recent RMX users.

What do you mean exactly Johno ?

This TSI works pretty well however how do you move within a track, with the jog wheels, while it is playing instead of the jog wheels just changing the pitch? I can move within the track with the jog wheels but the track has to be paused.

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You can move within the track ( Scratch mode ) by holding stop button and rotating the jog wheel . When you release the stop button scratch deactivates track keeps playing and jog wheels have the previous function (they change the pitch)

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Also is it possible to "juggle" preset cue point with this set-up? I can only get the 6 button to go back to the most recently played cue point while the track's playing.

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When cue points have been set in the track and you are between two of them by pressing 4 button you can go to the previous , with button 6 to the next one . If you want to delete a cue point press scratch + medium kill ...

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When cue points have been set in the track and you are between two of them by pressing 4 button you can go to the previous , with button 6 to the next one . If you want to delete a cue point press scratch + medium kill ...

That is correct but what Im talking about is if your between 1 &2 cue points & say you want to instantly jump to cue 4. Can this be done on the controller or do you have to use the hot cues on the computer keypad to jump around. Thanks for the info on how to delete the cue, I needed that also.

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It is not  possible with the current midi mapping . I had thought of that too when I did the tsi but it needed to delete some other functions in order to make what you mentioned possible . Do you really need the cue point jump function that you described ? If so I can make an other Tsi .

 

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No need to make another TSI, I just changed the 1-8 & Q-I on the keyboard to run all the hot cues. I was wondering if your Map will control 4 decks though? I noticed theres a 4 deck map in another post but I am really getting used to this one & didnt want to have to re-learn anything.

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Hey, I've just tried using this map and I can't seem to control the parameters for each effect. All I can seem to do is change the dry/wet function and turn each effect on. Am I missing something? Would it possible at all to provide a diagram of all the functions within your map?

Cheers

D LAW 

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Hi guys, I'n new with the RMX and thanks to you I finaly understand the modifiers thing, but i have one question... Can you set the modifier on toggle not on hold?

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Hello Korun,

It may depend on the software and on the type of MIDI command the controller sends
-  I don't think there is a problem to set the modifier on toggle rather than hold with DJ Console Rmx transport buttons in Traktor Pro,
- but for example in Ableton Live 8, the MIDI learning mode is different and I didn't find a way to use a transport button with modifier command in toggle mode (because the Rmx transport buttons send 1 Control Change MIDI command when pushed down / 1 Control Change MIDI command when released, releasing the button changed the command), so the solution for Ableton Live modifier command was to use Hercules DJ Console Rmx MIDI mapper (here), and replace on Rmx the button we wanted to use as Toggle into a Note On/Note Off MIDI command. Be careful, as long as you don't restore the former MIDI command, the MIDI command sent by this button is changed for all software.

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Thanks for the quick reply... I'm using Traktor Pro and there are 5 options available but none of the is toggle. I'm using the Scratch button as a modifier but i use it quite often so it would be better if it stayed on as long as I want. The options displaying in traktor for the button are: Hold, Direct, Increase, Decrease and Reset. 🙂

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Hello,

Did you try Direct as option? 

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Max, you inspired me:)....

Direct button changed the value just to a single number (eg 1) and it stayed that way. So I duplicated the modifier and I set the Direct to 0 when the modifier is already 1. It works like a charm 🙂

One more thing, are the RMX buttons durable or should I be carefull? Honestly... 🙂

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Hello,

Rmx transport buttons are durable.
The controls with the shortest live time are the faders if they are pushed vertically (they have a good life cycle for horizontal use): the solution is to avoid storing anything over the Rmx in a shelve or in your car trunk (when you place the laptop over the Rmx for 5 minutes, it is OK, but if you store it that way every day, the faders will be worn out not because of their use but because of their storage conditions). As Rmx transport bag is not rigid, don't consider the transport bag as sufficient to store anything over the Rmx even in its transport bag.

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Holding the scratchbutton and trying to change the effects parameters (by using the bass, mids and treble) just don't seem to work. Does it work with you guys?

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Thanks for the Tsi File!!  It's great!!!

Detox!

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Any suggestion for this midi mapping is wellcomed .... Please tell me what you think of it :)))

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I have been using for several weeks hercules RMX with traktor pro but had some problems in the tsi found in the official Hercules suport page . I couldn't controll the effects (couldn't change them , the parameters etc. ) so I thought doing my own tsi which I hope will help all the RMX+Traktor pro users...These are some of the changes

1. the filter can be adjusted by holding secondary function button (scratch ) and changing "balance" parameters.
2. You can activate the filter by scratch+ tremble kill or deactivate.Whan the filter is activated source button lights
3. effects can be activated by holding scratch+1 or 2 or 3... and can be changed scratch+ 4 or 5 or 6 .4 corresponds to1. 5 to 2  and 6 to 3
4.the previous , next button do a 32 beat jump forward or back
5there are some other changes which you ll learn by using this tsi

hope it helps youCool

hey DJ Chris,

Im using your mapping atm and i love it but I cant find how to listen in my headphone the track in the other deck before to play it.... can you help me? and btw im mixing live the next friday with my hercule so plzzzzzz answer fast!! 🙂 thx

DJ Trippinn

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I just got my RMX today, and I signed up on this site just to say thank you to DJ Chris. Thank you for creating it, I'm about to use the latest one.

-DJ Valor

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Any suggestion for this midi mapping is wellcomed .... Please tell me what you think of it :)))

Hola Dj Chris K I'm using your .tsi and simplify my life!! jeje I write to ask if you can map like this video

 

 Thanksssss

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hey dj chris iam really stuck i have ur tsi file and all the buttons work great but when i use the treble and mid on the left hand of the deck it works the pitch on the right hand side instead and its reli bothering any ideas as to fix it and the treble is making the left pitch control go up and down please help:(the right side works perfect tho.pleeaaaasse help

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